Are all homes listed on MLS?

Noah
Home Buyer
Oceanside, CA

I'm in the market for a condo/sfr - so far I've been using redfin.com's mls listings. Do I need to include other sources in my search? (are there a significant number of listings *not* shown on the MLS?)

Also a couple sites show 'pre-foreclosure' listings - is there any benefit to me to know about these?

Thanks much

Answers (12)
Wayne C Melton
Broker
Athens, GA

Local MLS's have requirements for homes to be submitted and listed on their sites, which may preclude a home being on a given site. . Too, some sellers, for various reasons may not want to have their homes listed on the MLS. Some government agencies and other institutional sellers may have their own networks and brokers that are non participants of MLS in marketing their homes. Too, some brokers are not members of a local MLS, thus their homes would not show up on listing searches.

The MLS is an excellent tool to offer information quickly, accurately to co-operating realtors and real estate brokers. Homes listed in an MLS have more exposure to the real estate community participants and information is very easy to find by the member brokers.

The pre-foreclosures sites are gleaning information from public notices to foreclosre and court house records, as confidentiality rules are still in effect from late paying customers. The information reports the foreclosure status and may combine information from other public sources. However, these buyers may not want to sale, may obtain protection through bankruptcy actions, and other legal court actions to stop a foreclosure. While some pre-foreclosure owners may be highly motivated to sale, many others are not, or they would usually have already taken steps to try to remedy their plight through actively marketing their properties and consumer education resources offered by both individual banks and govenment centers to deal with disposing of the home- regarless of condition and loan balance.

Mon Jun 29 2009, 14:49
Oliver Indra -...
Agent
Oceanside, CA

Jenwll,

With a 20% conventional loan, you have a good chance to get a home, you just have to be fast. The same day you see a bank owned property on the market, you have to get there, view it and decide if you want to put an offer in. You might be one out of 20 other offers, but if your offer price is right, you def. have a chance. The market especially in Oceanside and Vista got a bit crazy the last couple month. I wanted to show a home today which came on the market on Tuesday and it already has 20 offers on it which are submitted to the bank. That just means, if you want to buy a home at this moment, you have to be fast and you better work with an agent who is fast as well.

Noah, preforeclosures shows you homes, which might be foreclosed on. The homeowners are back with their interest payments. It's public information, that's why it is showing on Redfin. Your benefit, there might be a property in the future coming to the market which fits your needs.

Oliver

Thu Jun 18 2009, 16:13
Jenwll
Home Buyer
San Diego, CA

I would love to find a house not listed on the MLS here in San Diego. So many offers going in on one house. I have 20% to put down and could probably offer a higher bid then the selling price on most of the houses I am looking at but the sellers and the banks are not patient. After they get a couple of bids they won't even show the house anymore. We are talking 5 days after the house is listed is on a MLS websites. What's the rush?? Don't they want the highest bid? It has been suggested to me to just bid site unseen to get in ....but I refuse to bid on a house site unseen thats just crazy!

Wed Jun 17 2009, 23:42
Chris Freeman
Agent
Grand Rapids, MI

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Noah,

In addition to what has been mentioned, there are also builders who don't list on the MLS. There is a very Realtor friendly company in my area (Allen Edwin Homes) that has several hundred homes available, none of which are on the MLS AND many of the local Realtors are unaware of them!!!

I only mention the company name, because they might do the same thing outside of Michigan too, I don't know for sure.

Web Reference: http://www.OwnGR.com
Mon Apr 7 2008, 21:05
Jane Berryhill
Agent
Darby, MT

Hi Noah -
As with all of the other Realtors, no, not all homes are on the MLS. It's best if you are going to buy a FSBO you do so through a title company which will keep you safe in the transaction. Those that are forclosed on are excellent investments much of the time. Be careful, some of these have some structural issues you have to be careful of. Realtors are safe to work with, and as mentioned previously, the seller pays for the Realtor services, so you may as well have someone working for you. It really does make a difference.
If you decide to come to Montana let me know!:-)

Mon Apr 7 2008, 20:56
Alison Bell
Agent
San Diego County, CA

Not all homes are on the mls. Some are for sale by owner(becareful if you do not know how to do the paperwork.)Some are in preforeclosure and are not for sale actively. Some are owned by the bank and have not yet hit the market.
If you are really serious about purchasing...get pre-approved(you need a letter to submit with the offer) and make sure you have an earnest deposit amount around 2-3% of the purchase price.(also needed to submit with offer)
Anyhow....I commend you for looking, but remember buyers like yourself don't pay a buyers agent...the seller of the house does! So, why not use a realtor that will do all of this work for you and can help you find a home?
Alison Bell
Prudential California Realty
619-384-6997

Web Reference: http://www.abellre.com
Mon Apr 7 2008, 20:36
MaryAnn Morrar
Broker
San Diego, CA

Hi Noah,
Not all the homes are listed on the MLS. I agree with Pam's answer

Sat Apr 5 2008, 19:11
Marilia Cathcart
Broker
92101

Yes, anytime a seller must sell it tips the scale to the buyer's side.
You have to be patient dealing with homes that notices of default have been filed or are already in foreclosure, however, you most likely will get a substantial reduction in the price.
For instance, I just sold a house that was going to foreclosure and the lender took a $250K reduction from the loan owed and it took me 3 months to get it done.
If the lender is already the owner of the property the process is shortened.
Please call me at 619 300-5008 if I can further assist you.
I have been a realtor in San Diego for the past 34 years. I am confident that I can be of great value to you.

Fri Mar 28 2008, 09:01
Pam Winterbauer,...
Broker
San Ramon, CA

Noah....

Not all homes make the MLS. I would connect with a Realtor who can sign you up for a direct feed from the MLS so you know immediately when a property is listed that meets your criteria. If you are using a company website it is not done in real time and not quite as efficient. Good luck.

Mon Mar 24 2008, 23:04
Don Tepper
Agent
Fairfax, VA

No. Many homes are not listed on the MLS. As James notes, FSBOs generally aren't, unless the seller has paid (via a real estate agent) for a listing on the MLS. Many pre-foreclosures aren't listed either. They will be if the owner has put them up for sale with a Realtor, but for someone who is 2-4 months behind on the mortgage and hasn't listed the property...no, they're not listed either. And properties that are for rent (because the owners were unsuccessful in selling them, or the owners figure it's a bad time to sell) at best are listed online as rentals. But today, many are also for sale. And we also have expired and withdrawn listings. They had been listed, but are no longer.

Hope that helps.

Mon Mar 24 2008, 10:42
James Baker
Broker
92008

Hi Noah! As Debora said some homes do not appear on the MLS. One instance is For Sale By owner Sellers. These sellers will often include themselves on the internet Real Estate sites and often the local newspapers and free publications with Real Estate classified ads.

My question to you is why are you attempting to find the home yourself? Realtors are ready and willing to please you by finding a home that you will love to live in. The Sellers of the homes are willing to pay the Realtor's fees. You don't run the risk of finding the perfect home in a terrible part of town with poor schools. You will have the benefit of comparable value evaluation. You will also save time which is of the essence if you want to take advantage of the current low rates for mortgages. Take advantage.

Mon Mar 24 2008, 10:31
Deborah Madey -...
Agent
Rumson, NJ
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A large number of homes for sale are on MLS. Not all homes on MLS will appear on Redfin.

In the early stages of a search, when buyers want to look on their own, I suggest that they use a Realtor site, Trulia, and Realtor.com. Be careful about making assumptions about pre foreclosure properties. The fact that they appear on a list does not indicate that these are for sale. Sometimes, when they are for sale, you will find these properties listed on MLS. Because someone had a legal action filed on their proeprty does not mean they are in the market to sell. Some property owners in pre-foreclosure may seek alternative solutions to the legal action. Some may not be willing to sell today, but may reocnsider at a later time.

Mon Mar 24 2008, 10:01

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